Episode Transcript

Bunny : (00:00)
Hi there. I’m Bunny Terry, and you’re listening to the I Love New Mexico podcast. Whether you’re a native new Mexican, who’s lived here for your entire life, or you’re just considering a visit, this episode is for you. Join us as we share a lot of New Mexico stories, talk about all things New Mexico, and include topics like what’s magical here, where you ought to visit, what’s happening, and the things you absolutely cannot miss in the land of Enchantment. We’re excited that you’re here, and we can’t wait to show you what an amazing place New Mexico is, because let’s face it, I love New Mexico. My guest today on the I Love New Mexico podcast is Teresa Robinson, and Teresa is doing, amazing things for, as I understand it, artists and performers and in New Mexico, and she’s also a branding expert and has a magazine that I know you’re all gonna wanna get your hands on. But rather than me tell you Theresa’s story, I wanna hear it directly from you. Teresa, who are you and what are you doing in New Mexico?

Teresa : (01:21)
Who am I? I, I like to think of myself as the, uh, quality producer in New Mexico. Um, that if anything I touch, it’s bringing some quality to our state. Um, but I began, um, as a graphic designer after getting out of design school, couldn’t find any work, and, um, constantly kept hearing the phrase, well, well, we need more experience. You, you’re gonna need more experience, which I found humorous, like, how am I supposed to get experience of the cake? No kidding, . So, um, I finally came down to the notion that I was going to have to, um, just, you know, invest in myself. So I started, uh, graphic Bliss 24 years ago, and, um, it’s evolved from just being simple logos and brochures to really sitting down with a client and coming up with their, their branding, their image, um, their kind of mission of what they wanna do with their business. And from there, um, I just wanted to start a magazine. I thought it’d be fun, . These are how I learned my lessons, . So I started, um, pride and Equality Magazine, which is an L-G-B-T-Q publication, um, that is now celebrating 20, I think 22 years. Um, so I want you

Bunny : (02:50)
To say the name again.

Teresa : (02:52)
Uh, pride and Equality Magazine. Okay. So, um, the publication, when it first started, like I said, a lot of lessons were learned from starting this publication, but one of them was, we started out as a monthly, really wanted to approach, um, showing the community in a light that I thought many in society just wasn’t willing to look at. Like, I had friends that were some of the best role models ever, and they’re, you know, stories that needed to be told. So we wanted to look at the aspect that they’re just like everybody else. We’re, we’re all the same. So that’s how we approached the magazine. It started monthly, and, uh, we realized that we were, before our time, we actually had, um, businesses that questioned how they were supposed to advertise to the community. And I’m just like, they’re people. They wash their hair , they take pictures, they buy cars, there’s nothing, you know, they’re gonna buy the same products as anybody else. So it was, it was quite interesting how people approach that. Now, it’s not a problem at all, but we went from monthly to, you know, going annually, and now we’ve made the decision to turn back to quarterly, um, and see about building that back up because we just feel there’s definitely a need to have that publication around more. Um, and I believe it was four years after I started Pride in Equality. Um, I, oh, no, 10, 10 years, excuse me, um, at an isotopes game, just sitting around. It was my first ever isotopes game and the energy in that, that arena. And it was just really cool. I started thinking about of all the things, um, how I didn’t know about the game or the schedule or anything until a friend informed me of it. And it just happened to be that day. And I thought to myself, wow, I wonder if this is a common thing, finding out about events the day after or the day before, like thinking to yourself, wow, I wish I really knew about that beforehand. And that started thinking for me that I wanted to create a hub for events and entertainment in New Mexico. So New Mexico Entertainment Magazine was born from that. And so our goal is truly to be a resource for all things events and entertainment in the state. And not only that, um, the biggest thing for me is I feel when it comes to publications or any material that helps promote someone, some folks get left out. There’s a lot of nonprofits, there’s a lot of individuals that, you know, create amazing events for us to attend, but they don’t get to have the promotional push that a lot of others do because they have the funds. So we really wanna provide this resource for everyone so everybody has a level playing field to promote their event or any entertainment that they’re doing.

Bunny : (05:58)
So tell folks where, and, and the links to everything that Teresa’s talking about are in the show notes, but tell folks if they’re driving in their car, give them, give them an idea of where to find New Mexico Entertainment Magazine first. Well,

Teresa : (06:14)
We’re working, so I should say New Mexico Entertainment due to Covid. Uh, we went, we started publishing in 2019, really excited that year. We really thought 2020 was gonna be our year ,

Bunny : (06:27)
Didn’t we all?

Teresa : (06:28)
It didn’t happen that way. So we are actually in the process of getting back to printing. We are happy that we have the locations. We have actually a hundred locations throughout New Mexico that have been confirmed. Um, but we are still working on picking up advertisers, and I can’t blame them coming back from a pandemic and now a recession. They’re being very, very tight with their advertising funds. Um, but we’ve, you know, picked up some great advertisers, music from, um, angel Fire is coming on board. Um, the, uh, the train that, um, travels through New Mexico and Colorado, they’re coming on board. So we got some advertisers that are coming on. So we’re, we should be back in print by next month, thank goodness. So that’s exciting. Yeah, I’m very excited. And I, you know, I would really, while I understand how advertisers are feeling about their funds, this is definitely an investment that’s worth taking because of the fact that I feel there’s a lot of publications that a lot of advertisers or businesses get lost in. The more ad heavy based than they are content and they get lost. And, you know, so this is an opportunity not only to be a part of a publication that is in their wheelhouse of entertainment, but also, you know, we, we look at this more as, we don’t wanna just have it of a, an exchange of monies. We really want this as a partnership. We want to work with whoever comes on board to work with us. You have an event you wanna promote, we wanna talk about it. If, you know, we want, we want businesses and people within the state to use us as a resource because the more people know about their events more there, there’s gonna be more stuff to do that people know about in the state. So, um, there is a list of our distribution points on our website@nmentertains.com that you can find the publication, but it will, you know, it’ll be in places like, um, flying Star and , um, burger Kings throughout the states and Albertsons. So yeah, we’re, we’re, we’re slowly, we’re slowly coming back to the distribution point we’ve been mostly online, um, which has been, you know, it’s been wonderful. We’re taking part of the technology, but there’s something to be said about having a printed a piece that you can touch and feel and experience that way.

Bunny : (09:01)
Well, and, and, um, I did see that you are still posting, um, articles online, right? Yes. I mean, so, so they can come to, and it’s nm entertains.

Teresa : (09:14)
Yes. So nm as in New Mexico, and then entertains like, we’re entertaining you. Um, do com. Okay.

Bunny : (09:19)
Okay. . Okay. So I, I took a look at that and read some of those. Um, so, so folks can find you right now online. Yes. And then, um, you’ll keep us posted on where they can find you in print, and if somebody wants to, um, advertise, which I might be interested, so we’ll, we’ll, we’ll talk about that piece later, but they can find you there as well, right?

Teresa : (09:44)
Absolutely. Yes. That’s the best way to find me on, yeah, you, if you send an email, if you send an email, for instance, to n entertains@gmail.com, you will get me , you’ll get me.

Bunny : (09:58)
And, and Theresa, um, when you think about, so I, and I, and I know that I just said this in a podcast, so for my guest who already heard me say it, um, I apologize except I think it bears repeating. Um, I had, I had done, I did a, uh, a podcast with Dakota Weiss, who is an amazing chef who has restaurants both in Santa Fe, and she’s young and she’s smart just like you. And I had done a, an Instagram co post and put up some of the food that she’s creating at a restaurant in Santa Fe. And I had somebody, I’m just gonna say, um, who doesn’t share my point of view, who said, that doesn’t look like New Mexico at all. And I was like, what do you think New Mexico looks like? I think the coolest thing about New Mexico is that, um, there’s such a, um, and I don’t, I, you know, diversity is one way to, um, there, that’s one way to describe it. But I think there’s such a fascinating mix of not only people, but arts and entertainment and opportunities, and I especially love that. I see. And certainly I have no hard evidence, but I see a lot of people, um, in a younger demographic who are starting to create their own opportunities just like you did. So, so tell me a little bit about that. I mean, what do you, what do you see happening in New Mexico and what’s, what’s, what’s the coolest thing? I’m just curious.

Teresa : (11:34)
I always felt that New Mexico, and I, I think anybody who’s lived here feels this as well. New Mexico Cole is, is constantly that place where it’s just, there’s so much potential. There’s so much potential here. And it’s like we’re at, we’re at the cusp of, you know, figuring out how to fix some of the things that we have going on in the state. For me, um, I, I always find those moments that I, I love my state, I really do. And I know that some treat it like the redheaded stepchild of the United States, but , you’re, you’re absolutely right in saying there was just something magical about this state. It’s funny that people call it the land of entrapment, um, and see it as a negative thing. Um, I left New Mexico when I got outta high school to go, um, touring with a music singing group, um, outta high school. And I came right back. I went to California, gotta spend some time there. And there was just, I missed home. This is home for me. And so for me, the best thing I can do for my home is find the best way to promote it. And as I have gone through my, you know, evolutions of how I handle my business and life, one of the factors in this state that I just feel is not enhanced enough considering what we have here is entertainment. We’ve been, I will say we’ve been blessed to have Netflix and, um, NBC Universal, realize the resources we have here and the state and, and, and city investing in that. I want to help in the process of really getting the state and city to realize they should be investing in what they already have. We have, you know, talented chefs, musicians, performers, artists in this state that need that same encouragement, that same investment, um, that they can be doing what they’re doing and adding to the value of tourism and just everyday life within this state. So for me, that’s what I am happy to do every day, is wake up every morning and find out about another performer that just loves to sing and be on stage and wants people to see that. Or, you know, a comedian who would do nothing more, but be on stage and make people laugh. I get a kick out of that. It’s a, it’s a real drive for me. And, uh, I find it funny. , I find it funny that you say that, you know, somebody wrote you saying that doesn’t, that’s not New Mexico. That doesn’t look like New Mexico. You, I think people still have in their mind that it’s tumbleweeds in just straight desert here, that, you know, they have images of what they think New Mexico is, but we’re still dealing with people thinking New Mexico isn’t even in the United States. So

Bunny : (14:38)
True. That’s true. And, you know, I think everybody thinks that we’re like Adobe and enchiladas, and I’m, yes, that’s, that’s a piece, but there’s also this huge creative piece and everybody doesn’t look alike or sound alike or speak alike or, um, and that is, um, you know, I do think this is one of the few places I, I, I’m like you, I grew up here, and then I moved away for a while and I was so, um, shocked at how homogenous some of the places I’ve moved to were, and I’m not, and I’m not necessarily speaking about the demographic of the people, but I’m thinking about the way of thinking. You know, I, um, this is a place where you can show up and be just about anybody you want to be. And, um, I, and I know there are people that will argue this point with me, but I do think there’s, um, people are less surprised when you don’t fit the mold, because I don’t, I don’t know how many people in New Mexico actually fit the mold of whatever the mold is.

Teresa : (15:43)
So , you know, New Mexico, you know, they u usually used to say that the United States was this great American melting pot. I kind of feel like that’s what New Mexico is. There’s, I mean, it’s interesting to find out people that have come from Florida and New York, and even, you know, I’m from, I was born in the Virgin Islands in St. Thomas, and people coming from the islands to come here to this spot and just feel like, yeah, I feel this is, this is good for me. And it’s, it warm, it warms my heart. You know, I’ve, I’ve lived here for 46 years and I, I, I always find it interesting when people may talk down on the state. I mean, we’re not perfect. I don’t think any state is Oh, no, no, no. But I definitely feel like there is just something here that every time I try to explain to people why, why New Mexico, Mexico, it’s, it is just, it’s something you have to experience. It’s something you have to experience that magic. And a lot of people that have come to the state understand what I’m talking about. It is hard to explain, but if you’ve been here and you’ve experienced it, you know, that’s, that’s like the best way to put it.

Bunny : (17:00)
So tell me, um, how old were you when you came to New Mexico?

Teresa : (17:03)
I was two. The, the story two.

Bunny : (17:06)
Wow. How did that happen?

Teresa : (17:08)
The story goes, and I don’t, I don’t know how true I really need to, you know, ask my mom if this is true or not. But the story goes that, um, my aunt actually was, um, positioned here, um, from the military, and, uh, she sent a postcard to my father who saw the mountains in this beautiful sunset. And, uh, , supposedly he fell in love with what he saw. Wow. And was just like, we gotta move there. So we left an island to come to what I, you know, for years as a little kid, I was like, we came to a desert. We came to a to live in a desert. But yeah, we, we, you know, I’ve been here for 46 years and I’ve seen it, I’ve seen it evolve in some ways and decline in some ways, you know, but, you know, uh, such as life. But the still, still, it has that magic that I keep mentioning that has never seemed to leave the state. And I, I think now as you, uh, you know, you mentioned earlier it is a lot of, a lot of young folks, even some folks, ’cause you know, you’re never too, you’re never too old to experience your dream. But I think a lot of folks are just taking matters into their own hands of how they want to have their life experienced here in this state, and how they’re going to give back to it as well. And so, like I said, it’s been, it’s been amazing to meet some of the people I’ve, I’ve met in this experience who just like me, can get frustrated with their state sometimes, but they love it just the same. And they wanna, they wanna provide for it, and they wanna, and they wanna promote it, and they wanna show like, look what can come out of this state. And we’ve had a lot of amazing talent come out of this state.

Bunny : (18:58)
So you wrote on, in your I just read some of those articles. Talk to me about the young man who’s writing the, who has written the book about Blackdom. I was curious about because was that specific to New Mexico, or was that a nationwide, um, piece that he wrote

Teresa : (19:14)
That was specific to New Mexico, but really, um, Dr. Timothy Nelson with his mission. And I, you know, from what I gathered speaking with him, it, it’s great to talk about New Mexico in the sense of history, but I think that’s really what it comes down for him is history. Um, a lot of you know, we’re, we’re dealing in a situation right now that people are fighting to just have a broader scope of our, of our US history. And this is one of them. Mm-Hmm. , um, the movie we discussed, the Harder They Fall, which was filmed here in New Mexico through Netflix, um, was kind of an eye-opener for some people. They didn’t realize that the harder…The harder they fall. Yes. Okay. They didn’t realize that there was this history of black cowboys and, and, and cowgirls in the state of New Mexico, or even throughout the state. Um, so it, it was an eyeopener for them. Like, oh, wow, they, I didn’t know that. And not only that, but that they held, you know, prestigious titles and they lived, they had their own space within the state that, you know, they were growing and prospering. So it’s, it’s really a, a history lesson for, for Dr. Nelson to really spread that lesson to everyone so that there is that, you know, that broader scope that we’re not getting in schools. And, you know, it’s, it’s a, it’s a disappointment that we’re not, I mean, it shouldn’t, we should always be learning as we, we get older as we grow, but there’s something to be said of, you know, having that in schools already teaching, teaching more than your standard history. And that’s what he wanted to get across with that. And, and it seems like a lot of that comes out through entertainment now. You’re getting that through a lot of entertainment. So, yeah, I liked his discussion that he, you know, with that book, he wanna expand more than just the written word, but putting it out there through documentaries or television shows, however he wants it to happen.

Bunny : (21:23)
That’s, I, and, and we’ll provide a link to his work as well and to the piece that you wrote about him. But I, I have my degree from history, western history in at UNM, and, and I know that one of the things we learned at that point, and, you know, that was in two th that was, you know, good grief was 24 years ago, , you were a baby. We, I mean, we learned that history was written, uh, uh, you know, women, the everyday life of females was left out of history. Mm-Hmm. the everyday life of anybody who wasn’t, you know, just because at the time those were the people who wrote history, because those were the people who had most access to, um, higher education was white males. And so, so I get what you’re saying. I, I’d love to hear him speak. Maybe we should have him on the podcast, but I really like, I

Teresa : (22:16)
Would definitely encourage it. He, he is an amazing, um, person to interview and just soak knowledge from. He’s, he’s definitely somebody you wanna have on your podcast.

Bunny : (22:25)
That would be so much fun. And thank you for bringing that to my attention, because I didn’t know, um, I, I, I mean, I didn’t know any of what you’re talking about, because what we learned in, in, in School about New Mexico history was, um, whatever was written probably in the forties and the fifties Yep. By the people who had the most education and were allowed to write those books. And so I’m glad that’s being corrected, and, um, I hope there’s some teachers and educators who are listening.

Teresa : (22:59)
Yeah. Yes. Attention. Where

Bunny : (23:01)
Did you go to high school?

Teresa : (23:03)
I went to Highland, Highland High School. Nice. Yeah. We’re actually celebrating our 30th. We’re, yeah. We’re celebrating our 30th anniversary this year, uh, which Wow.

Bunny : (23:15)
Wow is Right. That’s so, that’s so fun. And, and for people who don’t know, because I want, I want us to recognize that there are people listening to the podcast who have never been to New Mexico. They may have never been to the United States. Mm-Hmm. , um, Theresa lives in Albuquerque. She grew up in Albuquerque, which is the largest city in the state, and it still is less than 2 million people. I don’t know what the population Yeah. We’re, we’re still a very, um,

Teresa : (23:43)
We’re a little big city . We’re

Bunny : (23:45)
A little, it’s a little big city.

Teresa : (23:47)
A little big city

Bunny : (23:50)
And whatever you hear about Albuquerque, it’s not all true. Um, you know, it’s, it’s a beautiful place and, and a great place to grow up. Right,

Teresa : (23:59)
Exactly. Um, like I said before, no, no city is perfect. No state is perfect, and we, we definitely have some issues we need to fix here. But while I look and acknowledge that those are there, definitely love just experiencing the beauty that we have here. Not just the, not just the mountains. And because I’m not a hiker, I’ll be honest with you, I’m not either. I love looking at those mountains, , hiking up those things. I’m just like, Hmm. I give it up to my friends who do. Uh, but yeah, but just, you know, the, the food, the music, you know, there is so much to experience here, and it, it does feel like depending on what part of town you’re in, in New, in New Mexico specifically, even, um, Albuquerque, you can go downtown and experience something completely different from the Northeast Heights or from the west side, or, you know, it’s, you’re, you’re, you’re, you’re having so many different experiences in one city. It’s amazing. It’s amazing.

Bunny : (25:03)
Well, let’s pretend, first of all, we want people to find, um, your website and, and, and see what’s going on in terms of events. But let’s pretend that we’re talking to somebody who’s gonna be in Albuquerque for four or five days. What venues would you say if, if they’re a, if they’re interested in entertainment, what venues would you tell them to find?

Teresa : (25:24)
Well, I would give ’em a scope. ’cause I mean, a, I think a lot of people think that nightlife is the way to go, but you don’t, you can’t do that every night for four days. No. Um, so I, I would give ’em a gambit. Um, I would, you know, tell ’em to check out the Albuquerque Museum with some of the stuff that they have going on there. And then take in, uh, you know, a lunch at Los Quentes, which has been an Albuquerque staple, um,

Bunny : (25:51)
One of my favorites.

Teresa : (25:52)
Oh my gosh. And it still, it still holds up all this time, um, then , um,

Bunny : (25:59)
Ever.

Teresa : (26:00)
Exactly. And then possibly taking in something new like Electric Playhouse, which is bringing the feeling of interactive technology to their walls. I mean, you could play games in there, arcade games right. On their walls, or, you know, uh, just experiencing, like I said, the, you know, the parks, if you, if you are, if you’re a hiker, more power to you. Uh, but, you know, just experiencing the, the mountains and taking in a day of that, going to open spaces and, um, experiencing the outdoors that way. Nice hiking trails there. So told . And then of course, you know,

Bunny : (26:40)
The parking lot exactly

Teresa : (26:43)
From a distance. And then of course, you know, maybe having, um, a great dinner at, um, level five in Hotel Chaco. If you wanna try something really, you know, decadent to really say, you know, we’re gonna do something good for ourselves, try something new. And then, you know, try many of the different clubs that we have, um, in, in town, whether you really want that Thum thuma, you, you could do effects, um, if you’re looking for a different kind of sound. There’s Sister Bar. Um, and then of course there’s Hotel Zaz that has their, you know, kind of underground speakeasy where a lot of performances are held. So there’s a lot of different options to do. And those are just what, seven, um, to mention. That is the one thing I would suggest with anybody, and I encourage anybody to come and check out our state. But, you know, go to nm entertains.com and see the different, uh, venues we’ve spoken with that are on our list and some of the events that are coming up so that you can plan accordingly. And you’re not stuck in a hotel room , and, you know, just, you know, the whole time.

Bunny : (28:01)
And what I found it, I mean, when I travel, I don’t want to just see what’s on the, um, you know, the local tourist list. I like you, I saw that, um, they’re showing the Gene Wilder, um, documentary at the Guild Theater.

Teresa : (28:18)
And may I just say The Guild is like a second home to me. We, we actually, I love it. We have a lot of screenings. We do a lot of screenings with Keith there. He, he has created a wonderful place, um, for art house theater. But not only that, I, I think a lot of people don’t even realize that he does bring in new features that are seen at the big conglomerate theaters that you can see in the intimate space. But, um, yeah. Oh, remember Angie Wilder, it is an amazing documentary. Um, I’m, and I’m not surprised the Gild is showing it. It’s, it is definitely in their wheelhouse. Um, but that’s, that’s another, that’s another venue to experience. You can see a movie that’s coming out that’s being talked about in the press that’s getting like the big praise and then see things that you never would’ve expected and enjoy. The Guild is a definite hotspot to go to.

Bunny : (29:12)
It’s very intimate. I mean, I don’t even know how many seats they have, but

Teresa : (29:17)
117 seats . Wow. I to know that for how many tickets you tell

Bunny : (29:22)
. So, and I, and I think the showing, that showing is on the sixth, right? The,

Teresa : (29:28)
Actually, it’s, um, from, it’s from the fifth through the seventh. Um, so yes, this, this weekend. And, um, I, I think that’s gonna be a popular one. Um, I got to, do a preview of it, um, prior to it going into the theater. And it’s, and it is, it’s a beautiful documentary. I, I think Gene Wilder like a lot of, there’s, I I feel like there’s certain celebrities that really just touched us when, you know, when they were gone, Robin Williams would be another one of them that they left such an impression, um, when it comes to entertainment and in our hearts that, you know, watching that, I mean, if you don’t cry , if you don’t cry, I’m just, but you will, you will share, you will shed a tear watching this.

Bunny : (30:18)
It makes me cry thinking about it. Yeah.

Teresa : (30:19)
Yeah. It, it is a beautiful documentary. And I, and the one thing I always love is even when I think I know possibly everything about an actor or a performer, I learned something new and I was glad to learn something new in this documentary. I’m not gonna say what it’s because I don’t wanna spoil it, but, uh, you actually learn, you’ll learn a little more about Gene Wilder in this documentary. It’s wonderful. So, yep. If you are a fan, head to the Guild and check it out.

Bunny : (30:50)
So I want, so I wanna be clear , because, um, uh, we’ll tell folks this, a this episode is airing after that, that,

Teresa : (31:00)
Ah, I do want, but I

Bunny : (31:02)
Still wanna, I wanna be sure that we’ve talked about it and that we’ve given credit to the Guild, but mostly I wanna give credit to you, Theresa, you’re doing really important work and, and you’re having great fun, it seems like.

Teresa : (31:13)
And that’s, I think that was an important thing for me. I’m, I tell my kids every day, you know, they’re now going into the workforce and they’ve, they’ve experienced having jobs that they’re completely miserable at. And I know , I know it may not be, you know, it’s not how a lot of people would go. I think they’re very secure in a nine to five. Um, I learned very early that that’s not me. I, I always knew that I was going to be destined to kind of forge my own path. Um, but the one thing I learned is life is too short to do something that makes you miserable. So whether that’s a job, whether that’s a relationship, what have you, I, I tell them, I’m like, it is not worth you being this miserable. Like, it’s, they don’t pay you enough for that. So look for something that’s gonna, if, if it is a nine to five, look for a nine to five, that’s gonna make you happy.

Teresa : (32:07)
And I just, I’ve, I’ve been, I’m, I’m just so happy that I get to do this, that I get to spend time learning about others and being in the entertainment, um, sector. I mean, I, I guess it’s kind of a, uh, it’s a full turn for me. I thought I was going to be in theater when I, um, when I went into college, I was gonna major in theater. I was gonna be an actor. And, um, I went to UNM and quickly found out that I cannot handle a big college campus life. And it was a dera for me to sit in rooms doing art history, which I love. I mean, but it, when, you know, when you have stadium seats and they turn on the air conditioner and you find yourself falling asleep every time, , because Right. You know, it just, it was, it was just not a space for me.

Teresa : (33:03)
And I thought maybe, okay, maybe that’s not what I’m supposed to be doing. And I ended up, um, finding the art center, um, and experiencing advertising art and learning about computers. And it just, it just, I felt that it worked for me. And that’s where I went into that field, not expecting it, really thought I would be in entertainment. And then all of a sudden, you know, I started thinking about entertainment here and I’m meeting some amazing people, not to mention like, big celebrities. And, um, one that came to mind is Ann h, um, who we just lost a few years ago, right. And, um, we had, we did an interview with her when she was here in, um, Albuquerque for a comedy fundraiser. And she’s she said something to me that honestly, it did, it irked me. It irked me after the interview.

Teresa : (33:59)
It irked me a year later, . But, um, she asked me why I didn’t, um, I guess pursue acting. And I told her, I, I feel that I was meant to document it and learn more about it instead of be within it. And she went and said, ah, you’re just, you’re just too scared to, you know, actually take the pledge. That’s what it is. And I was just like, who? But, you know, I think she had some truth in that. I think she had some truth in that. Um, fear for me was a very controlling factor, um, in a lot of, in a lot of aspects of my life. And I think subconsciously that there was a possibility that I just was like, I’m not gonna make it. I’m not, I’m not ready for this. I’m not good enough. So I didn’t even try. So it is part me just loving to learn what people are passionate about, because it, it makes me, it makes me feel good, but I think it’s also an inspiration thing of, hmm, if they did it and they really loved it, maybe I can. And so, funny enough, you know, I ended up getting an agent and have been able to do some acting, and weird enough, I’m, I’m on a billboard in town and . Wow, there. That’s so cool. That one still weird. Yeah, that’s still weird. still weird to be driving up, you know, and sometimes I forget it’s there. So I’ll be going up Eubank and, uh, Canaria, and boom, there it is. And I’m like, oh, it, it’s, it’s just, oh, I gotta

Bunny : (35:44)
Go. I gotta come to town and see. Well, so, um, I do want, we’re also going to put a link to your business website, your branding business, because I want folks to know that you’re also very accomplished at that. But I just want to applaud you for doing what you’re passionate about. And I’m, and I’m excited that this is a place that fosters that sort of, um, passion and execution for people. I mean, I, you know, I don’t, I don’t get much out of this podcast except I get everything. You know, it’s not, it’s not, um, a monetarily a big deal, but it is su such a passion of mine to hear stories like this. So thank you for who you are, and thank you for being on this show. It’s so fun to talk to you.

Teresa : (36:31)
Thank you. And I, I would just like to say, as you brought up money, the one thing I actually learned is that, you know, if money is the lead for anything you do, you’ll never really be passionate about it. So, you’re right. While money is important to live in the world, the, you know, creativity and, and passion is an important thing as well for life, for zest of life. So keep doing what you’re doing because that is important as well. .

Bunny : (36:56)
Thank you. Thanks.

Bunny : (36:58)
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