The Business of Gratitude: Brindley Tucker

Bunny: 0:01
Bunny Terry here with the Lifesaving Gratitude podcast. And today we have an amazing gift. Our topic is the business of gratitude with Brindley Tucker. Who’s a colleague and friend who was gifted to my life in the most amazing way. I, as most of you know, am a Keller Williams real estate broker. And I was in LA for an event about four years ago, I think Brindley and I think 2017 maybe. And you know, I’m a country girl from New Mexico and I’m standing at LAX still, not sure how to negotiate the whole Uber and Lyft thing. And you know, at LAX, there are 72 people lined up for their shared ride and this beautiful blonde woman walked up to me and she said, you look like a Keller Williams agent. And I said, I am. And she said, are you going to the event because let’s share an Uber. And I got in the back of this Uber with the amazing Brindley Tucker and I was given about 25 uninterrupted moments of her energy and intelligence, she was an immediate inspiration. And , I want to tell you guys, Brindley, I got on your Facebook page this morning, and I happened to read your description of yourself. And I thought I could not have said this better, but she calls herself a speaker, trainer, motivator, inspire, changemaker and best of all grace giver. And that’s, that’s who I want to be. I want to be a grace giver. So let me give you the professional rundown though. Brindley is a licensed realtor and she’s the owner of your Realty Leverage Incorporated, which is a recruiting training and coaching firm. And I remember you saying at the time that I met you, I’m creating a company. I was having difficulties with my real estate assistant at the time and you said, I’m starting a training company that’s going to do that. And you did it. And, and her specialty is unifying teams and helping agents increase leverage in their business. But listen, if you’re going to hire a coach, you should ask them what they’ve done. Because in her life, before that, she owned a successful real estate company. She had a marketing and transaction management company where she closed over 2000 transactions. So this is the sort of coach and leader you want in your life. She is also the owner and developer of transaction management academy, which is a full transaction management training program . So that’s the professional piece of her life. But let me, let me give you a tip. My husband has a saying , and when, when he, when we meet somebody or, or we’re talking about somebody that we know, he always says, man, that’s a person I’d like to have in the Fox hole with me, because if you were in world war one or world war II, you wanted a person in the trenches with you who had your back, who knew what they were doing and who was fearless and Brindley. You’re somebody, you’re a person that I would want in the foxhole with me. So I asked Brindley to join us today, to talk a little bit about business and a lot about life and gratitude. So I know you have a lot of amazing stories to share. I just want you to tell us about you Brindley . I want you to just start, give me the rundown.

Brindley: 3:57
Yeah. Oh my goodness. Like I’m almost to tears, but I think that was the sweetest most, I’m just grateful for that opening. Wow. What an introduction. So as Bunny said, I’m Brindley Tucker and you heard a little bit of my resume. There’s a lot more to me than just what’s on paper. And, you know, I do remember that day at LAX and, you know, I remember being there and just being so grateful that I was able to afford to fly to LA and be at this massive conference. And it was at a time in my life when I was on a new adventure , with maps coaching and, and under Keller Williams. And it was the first family reunion that I was going to be a part of that family. And it was just an exciting time. And it’s so funny that you say that Bunny, because we have another friend in our industry named Brady Sandall and he’s the head of luxury for KW now. And he and I met in an Uber in Arizona at a similar conference. And so never underestimate the power of sharing an Uber. And like you said, Bunny, there’s many times that I’ve gotten in the car with my mentors or in the car with people that I want to be with. Like, I’ll see someone at a conference or we’ll be in the same space and I’ll say, Hey, are you heading to the airport? Can I ride with you? Because there’s nothing like that. Uninterrupted, as you said, 25 to 30 minutes, that can be such a powerful conversation. And it’s uninterrupted when you’re sitting in the backseat of a car with someone you really can’t ignore them. Right? And so I’m so grateful for that day. So, you know, my story is one of full grace and gratitude. I grew up raised by a single mom, single mom, only child. So my entire life has really been about me , because I was the focal point of our life growing up. And , it was such a blessed life. It was, I was so blessed to have a mother that really did everything that she could to give me the best possible life. We were poor when I was young. I remember times of my mother going to my grandparent’s house and on the weekends, she would – you know, how you don’t use a whole bar soap? She would sneak and find those bars of soap and put them together so that we would have soap. And, you know, I was a beanie weenies kid. Like I grew up on Beanie Weenies and burnt mac and cheese. And, and yet she literally would do anything and everything just to give me a home. And I think of so many people that were raised in very similar situations that didn’t have that love. For many years, I wouldn’t appreciate it as much as I should have. And , you know, my senior year of high school , our lives took a turn. My mother is one of three and my only uncle , because I don’t know my father’s side, my family is very small. My my only uncle was murdered. He was shot at close range through a bedroom window. And , he was the same age as me, the kid that actually did it. And , he had previously done some things before, but what I learned through that situation is my uncle wasn’t the best man. You know, he had done a lot of bad things. He had put himself in , a lot of bad situations. And unfortunately there’s a long line in our family of alcoholism and drug abuse, and he was addicted to heroin and he had a lot of, a lot of trouble in his life. And, I watched that growing up and going through that experience at 18, right before you go off to college, right before you go off into your freedom, was a pivotal moment in my life because this horrible thing happened. It caused my grandparents o f 48 years to divorce the only example of a beautiful marriage and r elationship that I had in my world. And then I took off to college where I had free rein, no curfew, nobody watching me, nobody really putting rules on me. And I discovered alcohol. And I used that to pour in and to mask all the feelings and the hurt and the darkness that I was feeling at the time because of w hat my family was going through. And, I would continue on that path all throughout college. I’ve been very fortunate in my life that because my mother put me in private schools and good education, that I’m a pretty smart cookie, and that can be a blessing and a curse, right. When you don’t have to work hard, you can rest on your laurels. Right. And my mom said, as long as you get a 3.0 I’ll pay for college, and I walked with a 3.2 and I probably studied 40% of the time and drank 60% of time. And those ratios could be a little bit higher on the drinking side. And, you know, by the grace of God, I graduated from college and I was fortunate enough to go to Manhattan in my twenties and spend, you know, my twenties experimenting and having a blast in Manhattan and, made some really bad decisions. And, you know, at 32, I was back home in my hometown in Florida, I was in a relationship with a man that I didn’t love. It was a business relationship. I say, I tell folks that I took him captive and dragged h im all around the country with me. And he followed. So he clearly was just as sick as I was. Right? And I was done. And at 32, I remember going to my first [Keller Williams] family reunion and it was in Orlando, for those of our friends that are with Keller Williams. And I remember walking into that convention center and all I felt was God, family business, all I felt was everything that was missing, that I was using alcohol to fill this big God-sized hole of just e mptiness and not loving myself. And I came home from that conference. And I said, I cried out to God and I said, I don’t want to live, but I don’t want to die. And I don’t know how to get out of where I am and I would continue down this path. It had gotten to the point at this point that I was drinking in the mornings just to get through the day and just to get over the hangover from the night before. And, Memorial day, weekend of 2012… You know, I believe that God whispers and then he speaks and then he yells and then he roars. And it just depends on how far we want to get before we get to the next one. And when d o we want to listen? Right? So my roar came Memorial day weekend of 2012. I went to a party with some friends and had copious amounts of alcohol. They tried to take my keys and s top me from driving. And, a nd unfortunately when I drank, if I were to drink, I only think about myself. I never think about other people on the road. I don’t think about how my behavior affects others. And I got in my car that night and I made a U-turn in front of a motorcycle. And I woke up in jail the next morning, not remembering much. I got out of jail and called the police station to find out where my car was. And they told me it was being held in an investigation of a vehicular homicide. And I get emotional when I go back to that moment, because when I share the story, I remember that moment a nd that morning and hanging up the phone and at my mom and saying, what am I going to do if I killed someone? And fortunately, and I do believe it’s by the grace of God, that man did not die. He was pretty badly hurt. I was facing 15 years in prison, t wo felonies, probably about $40, 000 – $50,000 in fines. I always say I had a house, but I was homeless. You know, not knowing what was g oing t o happen next. And I lost my job at the time. You know, unfortunately we work in real estate and when you make big mistakes like that, it can a ffect our licenses. And, and I’m so blessed. Our friend, N icki Ubaldini, as you know, is a massive, massive impact on my life. And she was my employer at the time. A nd she did the best thing for me, by allowing me to go figure my life out. And she actually brought me back in, when I got, when I was about two years sober and brought me back into her business and helped really launch pad me into the next chapter of my life. But that time was a time of, you know, I truly believe t hat that man lived because God knew I would be more useful out here that I would be behind bars. And I made a decision that morning that I was not going to be that girl anymore, and that I wanted a different life and I was willing to finally do whatever it would take to have that life. And, I say today that my purpose in life is to hold the space for grace, for myself and others. You know, we talk a lot about people that have gone through, you know, losing a child or losing a parent a nd, and awful things in life that are beyond their control. Right. But if cancer disease and all of these things yet how vulnerable and open do we get about when we make massive mistakes and bad decisions in life, and we create that chaos and we create that, that hurt a nd that behavior and t hat, that horrible thing and how it affects our families and the people around us. We don’t talk a lot about that recovery. And so that’s my purpose in life is to provide that space where people can say, I made a mistake and I can still have a life beyond my wildest dreams. Oh, p robably t o do the work.

Bunny: 14:18
Absolutely. One of the things that, you know, I know that we’re both fans of Brene Brown, who says we get to write brave new endings for our life. And, and I also believe that stories save us. I didn’t know this story, except I knew from Nikki that she said, when I was on her podcast, she said , I know that, you know, and I want you to ask her to tell you her story, because it is an amazingly powerful story that’s full of grace. And, I mean , I’m, I’m in tears as well, because I’m so proud to know you. And I’m so proud that you’re willing to tell this story to everybody. It’s it’s I have chills. When was that? Tell me how long ago?

Brindley: 15:19
So that was, that was 2012. I’ll celebrate nine years in recovery at the end of this month. So I have a nine years sober.

Bunny: 15:28
Well, that’s a big year.

Brindley: 15:29
It is a big year . And you know, it’s funny because , when you celebrate big milestones like this, it brings up a lot of different memories and a lot of different things. And , when I, when I quit drinking , I had my first grand mal seizure a month after I got sober on public transportation, because at the time I couldn’t drive, so I would, I would strap my laptop on the back of my bike. And I would bike from agent to agent, to agent, just building a business, just to pay off my fines and just to work. And I would put the bike, they would put the bike on front of the, on the front of the bus, and then I would get on the bus, the public bus, right? And here I am, you know, talk about a humbling experience. Like I’m this blonde girl that went to college and have an education. And I’m having to get on this bus. And then I have a grand mal seizure on one of these buses. And I wake up in the hospital. And at the time I thought it was a curse. I thought this was my punishment, right? Like, this is, this is the punishment that God gave me because I was so horrible to my body all those years. And for years, I thought that, and I remember I had to get public healthcare because I didn’t have healthcare at the time. And I was literally biking from place to play 60 miles a day in the middle of August. And I got off the bike and I called my best friend, Heidi. And I said, I can’t do this anymore. I’m done. I’m done. I’d rather die. Like it’s too hard. I can’t do it. And she said, I’m super emotional today, ladies. I’m so sorry. She said, you’re going to get back on that bike because you’re going to help so many people find public health care , and your story is going to impact others. And for some reason that day, it put me back on that bike. Well, the first day of may, this year, May 1st, a couple of weeks ago, my friend, Heidi, I’m at her house and we decided we want to cook steaks for dinner. And I had to run down to a town that’s like 30 minutes south of us. And I just happened to pop in this store cause they had grass fed beef because today I take care of my body. Right. And , I get my beef at the counter and I come through the checkout line and I hear a man say she just fell over. And I look over and there’s a young woman in her twenties and a grand seizure on the ground. And I immediately call 9-1-1. I’m able to tell everyone what to do, what the woman that’s down on the ground with her to do, because I know what she’s going through. And I know what she’s doing. And I got to speak to 911, you know, intelligently and tell them what was happening and what she was going through and how we had her set up. And then when the paramedics got there, I got to explain to them what had happened. But the most pivotal moment for me through that was when the paramedic looked at me and said, ma’am thank you so much. I think we have everything we need. I turned around and I walked out where Brindley three, four years ago would have wanted to wait. And her ego would have wanted to be rewarded and shown. And I just walked out and I got in my car Bunny and I lost it. I just started bawling because it was at that moment that I realized why I had that grand mal seizure nine years. But it’s a gift and everything is a gift. If we choose to look at it as a gift. And when I started telling that story, that’s when I started owning it and it didn’t own me anymore.

Bunny: 18:56
Oh. So in my book, there’s a quote from Mary Oliver and I can’t quote it exactly, but it says someone once gave me a gift, gave me a box of darkness. And it’s only, now that I realized that was a gift. And I think we, we so tend to fight back against what life gives us until we stop. And , and we’re mindful and we say, wait a second, there’s a gift somewhere in this. That’s what I believe. I believe that I didn’t believe that when I had cancer. And I’m sure you didn’t believe that when you had that accident with the motorcycle, but there there’s a gift in all of it. I know that sounds really pat and sort of Pollyannish. I just, we got to see it.

Brindley: 19:47
I’m all about sounding Pollyanna. If you have the actions ,

Bunny: 19:50
Right.

Brindley: 19:52
I mean, really to me sounding Pollyanna is when your audio and your video don’t match, right? But when you are living a life is it is truly, that is the purpose that you want to use. And that’s what I share with people that I help come out of. Seemingly hopeless places is when you can be vulnerable and use that story to help others, that story will no longer own. You, you will find the gratitude. You will find it . I am grateful for that night. That happened because Lord knows what my life would be. Nine years later, if I had not had that wake up call, and it’s an inspiration to others that you can go through something like that, build a business, sell it, build another business, inspire others, be an amazing daughter. I mean, my mother and I have the strongest relationship that we’ve ever had. I joke that when people ask me if I’m dating, I say, yeah , my mom, you know, like I don’t have many years left with her. So, you know , that’s my choice. And I just get to be that daughter today, you know? Cause there were so many nights and Bunny, you know, you’re a mom, you know, there were so many nights that that phone rang after midnight and she didn’t know if I was dead or alive, you know? And now today I get to repay that by being her daughter and being with her and taking her on trips and , and giving her a life that she gave me.

Johanna: 21:14
Yeah. Your story is so amazing and powerful. And I think it’s just a Testament to see, I guess I was just thinking , you know, if somebody looked at you now and didn’t know your story or, you know, they’re working with you and they didn’t know that they would never imagine that you’ve been through all that. And so you could, you could just pretend like it never happened and not share it, but the fact that you are brave enough to share that with people and be vulnerable and, be honest, that’s like, it’s such a, gift it has such a big impact. And I think that can help so many people. So I’m just so excited for people to hear this and hear your story. Cause I know they’re going to relate to it and , and you are an inspiration to see how far you’ve come and it’s , it’s amazing.

Bunny: 22:01
And it’s the whole idea that we, you know, we’re taught that , that you fell forward, you know, that’s, that’s , uh , John Maxwell, you know, I heard him say that over and over. And I kept thinking really. I mean, come on, you know, you know, failure is so hard, but it’s, but it’s not, it’s magical in some ways,

Brindley: 22:23
You know, it’s, it’s simple, not easy. And I think that’s a lot of anything in life is it’s not about where you want to end up and are you willing to end up there? We’re all willing to have a better life. Like if you told me I won the lottery today, I’m not going to tell him to take the ticket back. Right. I’m going to take it. It’s are we willing to do what it takes to get there? And then are we giving ourselves the grace that we need to get there? Right. I didn’t go from what I was back then to what I am today overnight. Right? That’s a nine year overnight process and that’s, that’s changing behavior. That’s changing the way you think. And there were some days that were really, really hard and I didn’t want to do it. Right. And then there were other times that, that I felt like I was on top of the world and I was, I was making so many strides that I would make a hundred steps forward and then we’d go 150 back. It’s a journey. There’s not a destination. And as long as I don’t stay tied to any outcomes, I’m always completely surprised at what the outcome, because there’s something out there. You know, I always say like, I’m not judgemental of who your God is. As long as you don’t think it’s you. Right? So your God could be mother nature. It could be the universe, whatever that higher power is. There’s something that has a bigger plan for your life than even, you can imagine if your heart open had opened to accept it. And I will go back, Johanna, thank you so much. And you know, I had to make a decision like Brindley, Tucker, isn’t a name like John Smith, right? Like there’s not a whole lot of Brindley Tuckers in the world. And if you Googled me, my mugshot was all over the internet. And I think it was at that moment that I’m like, who am I trying to hide this from? Right. Like, and I remember the day I walked into my attorney’s office and he had a whole plan, right. To get me to plead a certain way and to get out of it. And I looked at him and I said, I did this and I’m pleading guilty and I’m ready to face the consequences of my actions. And I believe because I was ready to own the mistake and own the failure and do the right thing I was able to deal with what the consequences were that came. And they weren’t nearly as great, As I imagined or thought they could be. Because as long as I showed up and did the next right thing, somebody was taking care of me because there was someone that had a plan for my life that was unimaginable to me at the time. And it was so much bigger than what I ever thought. And then the last nine years I’ve done safari in South Africa, I’ve been able to speak in France and go to Italy and do all of these things that if you would’ve told me nine years ago when I was on that bike, but that would ever become my life. I would have told you, you were nuts. Like you were insane . Like, I couldn’t even fathom that. Right. Um, and then someone said to me, one day, God, didn’t give you a name like Brindley Tucker, to be nothing. And it was that moment that I just went. You just have to be, you unapologetically be you because there’s only one of you in

Bunny: 25:34
The last podcast interview. I did, I, I said to my friend Jock Soto, who is a guy from New Mexico who became the youngest dancer for the New York city ballet.

Brindley: 25:47
Oh, wow.

Bunny: 25:48
Just happens to be somebody that like you, that life, that God dropped in my lap, but wow. But then he got cancer and there’s a whole nother story. And that’s the podcast before you. But, I quoted, I said, you know, I heard Seth Godin quote, the great philosopher Dolly park , who said, find out who you are and then do it on purpose. And that’s what you’ve done. I mean, that’s, that’s what you’ve done with your life. You know what I do, I, you have, so you , you took this new life and you started creating, but I seem to have noticed that you’ve you in the last year or so, decided to step back just a little bit from that constant movement movement moving all the time and am I right?

Brindley: 26:38
Yeah. You know, I started something. I turned 40 year ago this April. I think we all go through i t. We t urn 40, right? The whole m idlife thing. Like some of us c all i t a crisis. Some of us call it a reflection. And on my 40th birthday, it was COVID. And so everybody was a t home and I had a zoom birthday party, right. With one of my dear friends out of Vermont. And we h ave like a hundred people o n this zoom birthday party. And it was fun. And I remember that night going well, you know, there goes t hat. The i magined dreamed of having this fabulous 40th birthday, where I come in with peacock feathers on a horse. No, I’m just kidding. Yet where do I want to be a year from now? And I decided at that moment that I was going to choose a goal and something to intentionally focus on for me each year. And that year I decided I was going to lose 40 pounds in my 40th year and f ocus on my physical health. And it wasn’t about the number. I want people to hear that b ecause I didn’t hit 40 pounds. I didn’t need to lose 40 pounds that quickly, the 40 pounds was just a symbolism for wanting to have a goal to change a lifestyle. And so I’ve been on a health journey, a massive one. And then I turned 41 this April and I have a very successful business. I’m very blessed. And yet I was spending money like crazy because I was never taught what to do with it. I always believed if I spend it, then I can see where my hard earned dollars go. Right. If I invest i t or it sits there, then I don’t see it in action. And I got vulnerable and I, I got vulnerable and I started talking to my friends about it. And then I started talking to people that had massive amounts of wealth and had built massive amounts of l ong-term wealth. I started talking to them about it and getting vulnerable. And I believe that it’s in our vulnerability of asking for help, that the biggest change can happen. And what I did is I had this massive aha that Brindley give yourself grace, you were never taught personal finance. You were never shown personal finance and you just need to master it like everything else. So go learn it. And so I’m surrounded by books that are all about wealth right now. And that’s my focus for the next year. And so, you know, pulling back yes, but in a different way, Bunny, I think for me, pulling back right now has been about instead of H ey w orld, look at me and putting myself out there so much. It’s Hey, look at the people in my world and amazing things they’re doing because I’m surrounded by talent. Now that is unreal. And it’s my job to help them now make their lives, what they want to be and have their life by design. And so I’m more focused on them and putting them in the spotlight t han I necessarily am myself. And I think that all comes with growth a nd ego. And as you get older, you realize that you don’t need all that attention. Right? What other people think of you is not so much important anymore? And my worth is not, it’s no longer tied to someone’s opinion of me. And for a lot of years, i t was for a lot of years, other people’s opinions controlled me.

Bunny: 30:01
So I’m working on a piece and I don’t know if it’s going to be a blog piece or an article or a book, but I’m calling it stop trying to be one of the cool kids, because I spent my entire life wishing. And as Johanna tells me, mom, you are one of the cool kids because it’s all in your head. But I had dinner recently with a friend of mine who is in the final stages of, of stage four cancer. And I went away from that and I thought, why in the world do we ever spend time thinking? I mean, my friend Bob is not thinking what other people think. And then I read a great quote that said in our twenties, we worry about what other people are thinking about us. And then our forties, we think, well, I don’t care what other people think. And well, I just turned 60 this year and I’m like, people aren’t even thinking about me. They don’t, they don’t care. So.

Brindley: 30:54
You look amazing. And I’m thinking about well,

Bunny: 30:58
But, but I mean, the things, you know, we’re always thinking, well, you know , should I, should I wear this? What will people will think? And it’s, you know, people are not obsessed with those sorts of things, but we’re obsessed with trying to fit. And I think the biggest gift that, well , one of the biggest I’m my life is full of huge gifts, but one of the biggest gifts I’ve gotten in the last decade, probably, especially since I had stage four cancer is none of that stuff matters anymore. Putting yourself out there and hoping that you get good reactions. It’s so full of grace, not to think about that anymore. Don’t you think?

Brindley: 31:39
It is. You know, I had this recent aha moment where I was thinking back to my childhood and there was a summer camp that I went to and it’s g oing t o sound so silly, but just stay with me. C ause I promise there’s a good moral to the end of it. And I remember they had every year, they had a camper of the year and I had said, I am going to be camper of the year. This year, I a m going to go and be the perfect camper. I’m going to help all the other campers. I’m going to do everything that c ounselors say. And I w orked so hard that week to be the camper of the year. And they gave it to another girl and it was a girl that everybody would always go to and ask for advice. And everybody valued her opinion. And everybody wanted to hear what she said. And I remember crying so hard that night and just, I want to be her. I want to be the girl that everybody comes to a nd, and you and I give advice t o and I help them. I help them. R ight. And then I had this aha a couple months ago that I ‘m now that girl, y ou k now, as a coach, as a coach, I get to help people with their businesses. They come to me and they seek advice and they seek counsel and I get to lead a team of 17 and they seek advice f or me. And so it just put things into perspective that that little girl, got, exactly what she wanted. It may not have come at the moment she wanted it. But even then I was manifesting what the future and what the plan was. And I believe we all have a plan. Sometimes we take detours, sometimes bunny, as you know, life gives us the detour, right? Yet every step of the way the detour either slows us down to teach us something or speeds us up to teach us something. If we’re choosing to look for the lesson

Johanna: 33:22
You at camp sounds exactly like we , that would be exactly what I would do. So that’s awesome to hear the other end of it. Because I think I still get that. Sometimes I get that like fear of missing out or fear of not being the best, like ultimate people, pleaser type. But you know, like, like you said, Bunny , you know, you’re not going to be everybody’s cup of tea and not, everybody’s gonna love your message, but for the people that hear it and it does resonate with that’s, you’re changing their lives. I was just thinking, listening to Brindley , as we keep doing more and more of these episodes and these stories, everybody’s story is so different and their journey is so different, but I just see these and hear these common threads through every single one. And I think it might be different for me what I’m hearing than what everybody else is hearing. But I just think it’s so powerful. All these stories that are being shared and we’re getting to help put out into the world, it’s going , I think it’s going to make a huge difference.

Bunny: 34:25
Well, I, to say, I think stories save us in some way and when, and when we’re afraid, I think, I think the , the lack of power comes from being afraid to know or share your story.

Brindley: 34:38
So on a, on a funny note, Johanna, I love what you said because there’s two things that came to mind. I have a dear, dear friend named Jolene and she is one of the most, how would I describe her emotional yet unemotional, not much rocks her. She can say very even . And I asked her one day, like, how do you not get your feathers ruffled? Like, how do you stay so calm, like to my post this morning Bunny about, you know , calm as mastery and not reacting, not letting other people and their behavior shake you and you react. And she said, because at the end of the day, I think about how big the universe is. And I am just a speck on this massive, massive universe. And you’re right. You know, today, like people ask me, you keep doing these videos or you keep showing up. And, I’m like, because as long as I have one person that writes me and says what you shared helped me, that I’m going to keep up as long as they’re listening, because you’re right. There’s a billion people in this world, right. There’s somebody that wants to hear what you have to say. We just don’t talk about it. Like I’m on this health journey. Right. And not to go to TMI, but we talk a lot about poop and gas and how food affects you. And I said to my nutritionist, like, does everybody have to deal with all these problems that I’m learning about? And she’s like, no, most people just don’t talk about them.

Bunny: 36:07
Oh yeah . Well, it’s so important. I know part of, part of my colon cancer journey was that, you know, Johanna and I went to this conference for call on Congress where with fight colorectal cancer. And we got to hear the secretary of health speak. And he said, we could almost eradicate colon cancer. If people would talk about their bowel habits, why are we afraid to why? Why are people afraid to say , uh, I got these snake-like poops.

Brindley: 36:35
Exactly.

Bunny: 36:36
That’s Colon Cancer. Talk about it, tell the story. Yes . Let’s save some lives.

Brindley: 36:42
And that’s what it is. Like. I mean, every morning I have to log what I ate the day before I have to write what number poop I had from the Bristol chart. Right. And recently I was just tested and I have black mold inside of me. And that’s what the underlying cause of a lot of my health issues has been. And so she texted me yesterday and says, oh, well, now you need to tell me what color it is. And you know, it’s just, again, like getting vulnerable with what’s happening with my body because…

Johanna: 37:10
We all do it.

Brindley: 37:11
Yeah, exactly. I don’t want to wake up with a stuffy nose anymore . I don’t want my hormones to be out of whack. I don’t want to feel like poop. Right. And if I , if talking about my poop was going to stop me from feeling like it I’d much rather do that. Right.

Bunny: 37:25
Well, and if it’s just going to save the life , you know, I didn’t write this amazing book. I wrote a book about what happened when I got cancer. And, and the only thing I could think about and what I told Johanna and what I told my husband was there may be one person that needs to read this book only one. And, and if it helps one person, I mean, that’s all we can do is change lives one at a time. And usually it’s our own. Right.

Brindley: 37:56
And by changing our own, other people are watching and you never know, who’s watching you really don’t.

Bunny: 38:04
So here we are on a podcast, this was going to be about the business of gratitude, but

Johanna: 38:09
We know we might change the title now , but my mind is blown. I’m like,

Bunny: 38:15
Yeah. I love that. Tell me real quickly about how all of this translates to your clients.

Brindley: 38:26
Yeah. So, you know, it’s really fun to take people on a journey, you know, and I think , God has gifted me with the ability to build a business, to be a small owner and have enough now experience, strength, and hope to share with other business owners. You know, I had a vision of two things. My mother, as I shared earlier, we were poor when I was young. She made , I think it was like something unreal. Like in 1985 she made like $15,000 a year. 12,000. So you understand. And then when I graduated from high school, she was a senior VP of institutional sales for Raymond James. And she worked very hard to do that, but she started as an assistant. She started in a support position and I wanted my legacy to be, to help people like her. And so I created a company where we could offer every type of leverage that an agent would mean in their small business, right. To help them grow their business. But then also we were able to give the support professional community opportunity, coaching education training, and , and elevate them, which in turn elevates agents and entrepreneurial businesses. Right? So now a small business owner, a realtor, an accountant, a medical professional can come to us and we can give them all the leverage they need in their world so that they can focus on the business building activities they need to be, and we can help leverage everything else, whether we help them find a full-time person, whether it, where the person temporarily. And then we just launched our coaching and consulting division , for support professionals. How cool is that like? So we’re just constantly wanting to pour into that community. And so God has blessed me with the opportunity to do all of that and get to lead in a team of 17 amazing people. And without all of that work and all of that transformation, there’s no way that I could show up for them the way I do today. And that’s, that’s the gratitude like overwhelming amounts of gratitude for where I am today. I’m so blessed. So, so blessed.

Bunny: 40:35
So I know that when I was running a team of five people, I could have used your help. So one of the things that we want to do is, you know, in this, in this podcast, we’re going to obviously provide a link so that people can find you. But, and I always say this, we can talk about this for a couple of hours. We do, we do have to find an end, but, but what are, what’s the best takeaway? I mean, it’s hard to sum up everything that’s been said, because it’s all so powerful. But if you wanted to give our listeners a gift today of something for them to take away, what would that be?

Brindley: 41:20
No matter where you are today, tomorrow can be better. It’s just a choice.

Bunny: 41:27
Oh, well, that’s going to make me cry.

Johanna: 41:33
Oh, Brindley . I want to meet you in person. I’m like , can we?

Brindley: 41:38
We need to make that happen?

Bunny: 41:39
Yeah. I gotta tell you. And we may want to take this out, but I keep thinking that I want to create a mastermind that we do in Santa Fe this fall. I keep thinking of all these amazing people that I’m getting to meet and talk to and , and who are devoted to helping others. So.

Johanna: 41:55
The lifesaving gratitude conference. Family reunion for gratitude. Exactly.

Brindley: 42:01
And it’s, you know, Sarah Fay and fall sign me up. I’ll be there.

Bunny: 42:05
Well come anytime. Anytime you can be my guest anytime, but thank you so much for this. What a way to start a day. Wow.

Brindley: 42:14
Thank you. The honor is all mine. Thank you so much for the opportunity to share in the privilege.

Bunny: 42:19
Let’s do it again.

Brindley: 42:21
100%.

Bunny: 42:22
Okay. All right .

Johanna: 42:24
Thank you so much.